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Vivek Tuteja: CAT — Myths and Facts
Vivek Tuteja: CAT — Myths and Facts
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The author is a PGP from IIM Ahmedabad and has 5 years of experience in education consulting. Early this year, Vivek turned entrepreneur and has launched Endeavor Careers in Ahmedabad, an educational enterprise dedicated towards guiding MBA Aspirants in their endeavor to make it to IIMs.

Most of the CAT aspirants have already given up hope on IIMs even before starting preparation for CAT.
Why?
Well, this is a result of twin factors. One, most of the students taking CAT, in their 20 years of upbringing have never been exposed to an entrance exam. To add to this, the kind of aura that has been attached to CAT by the media, students and the bunch of coaching institutes mushrooming in the market makes the aspirant vulnerable to succumbing at the slightest confusion caused by the myths making rounds in the market about CAT.

Let’s expose these Myths!

Myth 1: Success ratio in IIMs is 1:120
Here, we will have to separate IIMs from CAT. By my experience I can say that almost two-third of the students taking CAT are not targeting IIMs in the first place. They are targeting host of other institutes affiliated to CAT. They would not have even applied to IIMs if each IIM were charging a separate fee for entrance forms like the other CAT affiliated institutes. So this leaves us with 40,000 students and a ratio of 1:40.
Let’s go a step further. CAT is an exam that requires a lot of perseverance. However roughly only 50 per cent of students are able to persevere through the preparation period and are prepared to their best level on the day of CAT. So if you are taking CAT and seriously targeting IIMs and are ready to sweat it out till the CAT day, your chance of making it to IIMs will be 1:20.
Feeling Better?!!

Myth 2: Maths Genius + Vocab Stud + 800 wpm Reading Speed = IIM Call
Contrary to the popular belief, CAT is not a test to gauge mathematical aptitude and verbal aptitude. CAT is recognized as one of the best tests in the world to check the management aptitude of the candidates. The candidate needs to be good in mathematical and verbal ability but if those were the only areas IIMs were testing, there was no need to design a complicated exam like CAT to test the same.

Myth 3: The exam is getting tougher every year
Well, CAT 98 had 180 questions divided across 4 sections to be solved in 2 hours. So, a candidate was required to clear 4 sectional cut-offs and one overall cut-off in 2 hours. CAT 2004 contained 123 questions divided in three broad sections; hence a candidate was required to clear three sectional cut-offs and an overall cut-off in two hours. So a CAT taker in 2004 roughly had 50 per cent more time per question compared to a CAT aspirant in 1998. Of course, CAT in this period has moved from fundamental based test format to application-based questions.
So CAT has evolved into an application based test which in its course not only checks the basic fundamentals but also how you apply these fundamentals, given the pressure cooker exam environment with multiple simultaneous goals.

Myth 4: Speed and Accuracy match is what you need to crack CAT
An aspirant may have a great accuracy level and high speed, but if he does not possess the right exam strategy and the right selection of questions he will land up in no man’s land.
For a CAT taker one key trait is self-analysis. He needs to analyse his skills at regular interval and accordingly arrive at the right exam strategy. A CAT taker, who carries his ego up his sleeves on the day of CAT, will never be able to crack it. Rather he should use his presence of mind and keep an eye on the war (i.e. individual sections) rather than let his ego fight out each battle (i.e. each question) till the end.

Now, when the big myths have been shattered, let’s analyse why is CAT what it is today?

CAT — a test to check managerial aptitude
CAT checks the exam taker on the essential traits of a manager apart from the quantitative and verbal fundamentals that are prerequisite for anyone joining the MBA programme. These essential traits include adaptability, stress management, analytical approach, decision-making skills, self-analytical skills, and competitive benchmarking. All these skills are required to crack CAT in one way or the other. Apart from these, a manager is supposed to be a team builder, growth-oriented individual and have good ethical values. He should be able to look into a problem from multi-disciplinary angle. These skills are tested in the attitude tests viz. Group Discussion and Personal Interview.
So if you are able to get through the aptitude and attitude tests of CAT, you already have the right management aptitude and are fit for the revered team at IIMs to shape your future

CAT — What it takes?
Let’s understand what it takes to be a potential CAT cracker. Unlike college exams where one can slog it out, burn midnight lamps for 15 –20 days, solve last 5 years’ question papers and can still be sure to get a distinction, CAT preparation requires a single-minded effort, disciplined approach and a lot of perseverance. To be prepared for CAT, one needs to have maths & verbal logic as well as fundamentals in place. Mathematical and Verbal logic are a product of the way one has exposed himself to these logic areas over a period of time and cannot be mastered overnight. So, one should not be shocked if couple of people claim relatively good scores in Mock CATs without much of preparation. It only goes to say that their mathematical/verbal logic is in place. These candidates now need to work on capitalizing their logic upstart by giving due stress on mastering the maths/verbal fundamentals, striking the right exam strategy and getting that split second decision making in place.

Remember, it’s not the most intelligent, most diligent or the most spirited who cracks CAT. Intelligence, diligence and motivation pay only if you are a smart test taker.

So Happy CAT hunting!!
vivek@endeavorcareers.com

Post your doubts and queries on the CAT Forum and get them cleared.


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Subject: 
Hi Vivek,
Author: 
Guest (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 01/04/2007 - 13:52

Hi Vivek,

I am Ram and I did my Diploma in Computer Sci. and Engg. I have around 13 years of exp and am just 31. I had gone through lots of anguish in life due to lack of good qualification and am doing my BE part time now - first semester actually.

I know part time Engg. is always one(or many) tad lower than full time. So my plan now is to after I finish the part time graduation, I would take up a fulltime masters at a premier institute, either IIT or IIM. I know this would cost me 2 full years out of my career, but I feel it is worth it..

Down there somewhere I saw you state that 2 years of actual experience is worth more than a management degree. Do you think that point is valid for me too. I am being paid well now so it doest make an immd. impact. But I feel in the long run may be 10 years down the line it could prove to be quite useful...

Please let me know what you think...

Thanks
Ram


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Subject: 
need guidance...
Author: 
Guest (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 18/03/2007 - 07:44

hello sir,

i am an SYBMS student and will be appearing for CAT 2007. i havnt started any preparations seriously yet but hav joined Career Launcher for coaching. i have decided to begin my preparations from now but am not getting any headstart.

my basics is a bit clear in both maths and english grammar. i need to read a lot though to increase my speed in english and practice a lot in maths. i know wat i need to do but am just not clear about how to go wid it. i can devote some 7-8 hours now since m havin vacations bt once college begins i wont b able to devote so much time so i want to prepare as much as possible now itself.

i m very confused.

pls guide.
thankyou.


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Subject: 
need guidance...
Author: 
Guest (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 18/03/2007 - 07:43

hello sir,

i am an SYBMS student and will be appearing for CAT 2007. i havnt started any preparations seriously yet but hav joined Career Launcher for coaching. i have decided to begin my preparations from now but am not getting any headstart.

my basics is a bit clear in both maths and english grammar. i need to read a lot though to increase my speed in english and practice a lot in maths. i know wat i need to do but am just not clear about how to go wid it. i can devote some 7-8 hours now since m havin vacations bt once college begins i wont b able to devote so much time so i want to prepare as much as possible now itself.

i m very confused.

pls guide.
thankyou.


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Subject: 
i m software engineer, i want some guideline how to prepare cat
Author: 
harshat jain (not verified)
Date: 
Thu, 15/03/2007 - 10:57

i m software enginner and i want to find out as how my plans should be to bell the cat.i have good academic record and am a average in all section. pls let me know ur valuable suggestion and if possible abt ur course. waiting for ur reply my email id is harshatjain@gmail.com


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Subject: 
i m software engineer, i want some guideline how to prepare cat
Author: 
harshat jain (not verified)
Date: 
Thu, 15/03/2007 - 10:56

i m software enginner and i want to find out as how my plans should be to bell the cat.i have good academic record and am a average in all section. pls let me know ur valuable suggestion and if possible abt ur course. waiting for ur reply


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Subject: 
cat prep
Author: 
srikanth r (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 14/01/2007 - 10:39

sir,
i am an engg student(third year).want to be an entrepreneur someday.i feel that i can makeup a good manager.my hopes could come alive if i get placed in the top b schools .what should i read for my preparations.what kind of books should i read to be successful.


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Subject: 
cat prep
Author: 
srikanth r (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 14/01/2007 - 10:39

sir,
i am an engg student(third year).want to be an entrepreneur someday.i feel that i can makeup a good manager.my hopes could come alive if i get placed in the top b schools .what should i read for my preparations.what kind of books should i read to be successful.


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Subject: 
cat prep
Author: 
srikanth (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 14/01/2007 - 10:37

sir,
i am an engg student(third year).want to be an entrepreneur someday.i feel that i can makeup a good manager.my hopes could come alive if i get placed in the top b schools .what should i read for my preparations.what kind of books should i read to be successful.


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Subject: 
CAT PREPARATION .........
Author: 
VARUN (not verified)
Date: 
Mon, 18/12/2006 - 10:43

SIR , I WANT TO ASK THAT WHETHER THE PERFORMANCE OF A STUDENT PERSUING BACHELOR COURSE IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHILE ADMITTING HIM/HER INTO TOP B-SCHOOLS. WHAT IF STUDENT HAS ANY BACKLOG IN HIS BACHELOR DEGREE COURSE . IS IT BETTER FOR HIM/HER TO GET A WORK EXPERIENCE FIRST TO HIDE THAT PATCH OR DOES IT NOT MATTER AT ALL??? PLEASE REPLY SOON. THANKS A LOT SIR.....


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Subject: 
How to improve my DI AND LR scores
Author: 
Guest (not verified)
Date: 
Fri, 01/09/2006 - 08:24

Hi ,

I am a CAT 06 aspirant.Can u please tell me how to improve DI and LR skills.I am clueless only in this section, and am confident in the other two.In this 2 months can u tell me how our preparation should be. IS working out 1 mock question paper a day useful.


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Subject: 
some advice please
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Date: 
Fri, 11/11/2005 - 12:33

hi vivek,
good article there!I am doing my engg in Chennai and i am a CAT-2008 aspirant .I was wondering when i should start?I am a voracious reader and therefore read anything i can lay my hands on IF time permits.College is quite hectic , but i am managing.While my scores in my 10th standard were above 85%, i messed up big time in 12th ending up only with 75% overall!!!Now, i am not making ANY excuses at all and i am willing to go the extra mile to bell the cat,however i need some tips!!Kindly give me some pointers on how to start preparing and with what??
thanks a lot
cheers


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Subject: 
just keep reading
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Mon, 14/11/2005 - 01:52

hi just keep reading n keep working on ur vocabulary.. once in a while do some maths puzzles if u encounter them somewhere..
start serious preparation only in Dec'07 or early'04.. CAT is not something one can crack with longer preparation.. but u need far more focused preparation.. given that u have good upstart in verbal and quant..which as u say u have.. so just chill n keep reading ..
cheers


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Subject: 
hi vivek.thank u 4 all ur
Author: 
phani kaushik (not verified)
Date: 
Thu, 29/09/2005 - 13:34

hi vivek.thank u 4 all ur tips.hey my name is phani kaushik from andhra pradesh.i recently finished my btech in electricla engg.at first i was not gud at electrical topics and so i decided to do MBA.but now CAT and MBA is everything 4 me.i got 95.46%ile in MAT.but still i hav some fear bout quant.especially in geometry.plz give any suggestions.take care.bye


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Subject: 
its very much possible
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 04/10/2005 - 09:16

Hi kaushik
See just understand this that there is no reason why one cannot achieve a minimimum score of 20(whatever the cut-off is) in 40 minutes and you should work around to maximise ur score in other section..

95% in MAT is a decent starting platform.. but most importantly u have to shed all phobias and convert ur weaknesses into ur strength.. give a week to urself and become a stud in geometry.. and ur confidence will be automatically on high.. accept the challenges and achieve it.. and ur road to cat will become easier.

cheers

all the best
vivek


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Subject: 
thank u very much vivek.ur
Author: 
phani kaushik (not verified)
Date: 
Sat, 15/10/2005 - 14:45

thank u very much vivek.ur words really r inspiring.may i know r there any good B-schools under MAT?r amity and alliance good?or just a media hype?plz tell me.thank u.take care.bye


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Subject: 
Ur choice
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 18/10/2005 - 06:46

Hi Kaushik,
To be very honest with u i dont really see any of the institutes affiliated with MAT worth it..
But to a greater extent the selection of the institute is the direct result of ur expectations from ur MBA and ur aspiration level. Amity's and Alliance of the world have all together a different reason for their existence and our catering a different set of corporate demands as compared to top 30 institutes. Further their is clear difference in demand catered by top 15 vs top 30 also..
So we cannot compare IIMs or Amity or for that matter NMIMS and Amity .. some institutes offers degrees, some offer job, some offer education some offer social status some offer challenging job oppurtunities and so on.. every institute with a particular offering...
you should know what are u looking for..
cheers
Vivek
you should know


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Subject: 
Early Bird
Author: 
Purav (not verified)
Date: 
Wed, 21/09/2005 - 18:41

Hello Vivek,
First of all I should thank you for putting efforts in order to provide guidance and platform to IIM aspirants. I am studying in Nirma University, currently in 3rd sem. doing B.Tech in IC engineering. I want to be prepared for CAT 2008 and for that I am at present working on my vocabulary by using Norman Lewis "Word Power Made Easy". i am a little confident regarding my mathematical abilities and shall work on that when time comes. This is about me. Vivek, I need to know what shall I have to do at this juncture which, i believe is a little early to start hardcore prep.
Purav.


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Subject: 
Develop a reading habit
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Fri, 23/09/2005 - 07:48

Hi Purav,
Its great that so early on u have got clarity of what u want to pursue.. Now that u know that u will pursuing CAT, it makes a lot of sense to plan out ur effort than to to go in a hapzard way.. I firmly believe that what really determines ur success is a structured approach and not random slogging.
So next one year u should aim to develop a good reading habit. Read a lot of magazines, novels and newspapers..Get into habit of reading international magazines like economist and business week which will be available in ur library..Also keep doing norman lewis and pick new books as u are done with one.. Note that vocab and reading skills are not developed overnight and they are somethings which last for long time.. to spend time in developing this skill set..
cheers
vivek


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Subject: 
Great Article Vivek!
Author: 
Akash (not verified)
Date: 
Fri, 09/09/2005 - 05:23

HI Vivek!Your article is very well written and i must say very inspiring.I am currently pursuing cracking the CAT, though this prospect is looking exceedingly bleak. I am currently working about 8 hours a day and with 2 hours of entrance exam classes, i am left with very little or no time to study in the day. I am a B.E. Mech, 2003 batch and have been working for the past 2 years. My verbal and analytical skills are fair but quant is a bit of a bottleneck. I want to ask you whether i should continue this pursuit dilligently or really really slog it out on weekends and give the exam. Though i personally feel that CAT is not an exam you can crack by slogging endlessly. If you have it, you have it. And iam not quite sure if i have it or not.Kindly advise.Thanks.


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Subject: 
Structured approach
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Sat, 10/09/2005 - 13:01

See you need to understand what value add you are getting from ur class.. if you are not getting much value add you might as well prepare on your own and go all out for CAT. with only 71 days remaining what you need to do is work out a schedule how will you go about achieving this. Dont take any of the sections lightly and prepare accordingly.. You still can give one more month to your fundamentals if they are not in place, their after u will have to get into serious test practise .. so go all out to get ur fundamentals in place in a structured manner and you will better placed to start taking tests..
cheers


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Subject: 
selection of questions...
Author: 
sudip (not verified)
Date: 
Wed, 07/09/2005 - 16:50

hi vivek,
quite an inspiring article that you have posted, thanks!, I've been hearing of selection of questions from all those who advised me to take the CAT. Please eleborate on the issue... i mean apart from keeping in mind the sectional as well as overall cut-offs, what else should i keep in mind while selecting which questions to answer.
sudip.


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Subject: 
Greater ROI
Author: 
vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Thu, 08/09/2005 - 19:55

Hi sudip,
Selection of question is important because there are some questions which i commonly refer as speed breakers. Now, if you get stuck in these questions then you will end up losing vital time which could have helped u solve more questions. So your objectives should be that you atleast read all the questions and solve those which will maximise ur score.. in MBA lingo we will call it attempt the questions which have greater ROI..
cheers
vivek


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Subject: 
confusionz prevailin...
Author: 
sharad (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 04/09/2005 - 05:49

hiii vivek!!
am sharad pursuin B.Tech 4th year, preparin 4 cat dis year. I started my preparation somwhere in june,basically worked hard on maths 4 gud 2 months along with workin daily on DI or english section!!
but i haven"t worked out a few chapters in maths like p&c, inequalities! but have a good command in DI section n have varying results in eng part!! n after dt maths part i have been workin on tests at home, as przctice not imposing d time factor!!
so plz suggest me what shud i do now- shud i cover up dt remainin chapters in maths or what or sud i go along doin dese papars at home!
n yes not 2 4get ur wonderful article..has quite infused energy n confidence(was writin confusion lolz) in my body!
thanx..
waitinn 4 ur suggestion!


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Subject: 
need more details
Author: 
vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 06/09/2005 - 20:49

Hi Sharad
this is a specific problem and i wont like to answer it in a public forum.
Also i need more details abt ur preparation till date to comment on how u should go abt your preparation.. so u can write in a detailed mail to me at vivek@endeavorcareers.com
cheers


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Subject: 
work ex
Author: 
mansi (not verified)
Date: 
Sat, 20/08/2005 - 08:46

hey...i stumbled onto this site by accident!am i glad i found u guys!!
im an electronics n comm engg...just graduated in may...n landed up at a japanese company in saudi arabia...my problem is that i really want an mba...if not the IIMs then another top notch indian b-school..but i find it real hard to prepare on my own and manage my career at the same time!I'm seriously planning on quitting and flying to india to prepare....is that a big risk?and if i were to get in,how do i explain the empty months in my resume??


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Subject: 
Hi Mansi,sorry for the
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 06/09/2005 - 20:54

Hi Mansi,
sorry for the delayed response..
see this decision is dependent on what is ur oppurtunity cost..what is your profile and your career growth from the current job..
The second key thing to understand is what are your expectations from the MBA. What oppurtunities are you expecting and what learnings you associate with the MBA.
Another key issue in such cases is that may be your work ex for couple of years can add greater value at this stage then MBA...
All these need to be considered before you take the decision..
So these details need to be thoroughly understood and analyzed before taking this decision.
cheers


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Subject: 
job executed brilliantly !!
Author: 
ritu (not verified)
Date: 
Sun, 31/07/2005 - 10:56

hi your article no doubt was a clear winner in driving the adrenaline rush in the readers, i guess the response of the readers is a true reflection of that. anyways i had a query i wanted to know whether taking 2 mock cats in a day is a nice way to practise. i m slightly confused regarding it .looking forward to your reply.


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Subject: 
NO NO
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Thu, 04/08/2005 - 19:58

Hi Ritu,
Thanks.. At this stage you need not take mock cats... you should work hard to get your basic fundamentals and logic in place that means strenghten your quant foundation, vocabulary, sentence structure and reading skills. You should look forward to taking mock cats only october onwards.. Also, solving 100 mock cats/flts would not take you to iims. Rather what is far more important is to analyse your paper. For every two hours of mock 6-8 hrs should be given on analysis.. Areas one should look forward to gauge in analysis is silly mistakes, where you got stuck, why did you waste time, which questions you missed and why?
Happy CAT Cruise..
cheers


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Subject: 
Hi Vivek,I have got just a
Author: 
Guest (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 12/07/2005 - 13:24

Hi Vivek,
I have got just a 55% aggregate in my Engg. No work experience also as of now. I am not eligible for any relaxations under the SC/ST etc.... category. SO do I stand any chace of getting into an IIM, if I do my CAT well?? Else is there anything I can do to get into the IIMs. I am willing to die for it.
Please reply soon.


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Subject: 
Dont worry.. keep working
Author: 
vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Wed, 13/07/2005 - 16:29

Dear guest,

It will be quite unfair to say that iim admission process is biased towards any of the criteria be it academics, work ex or professional degree. IIMs look for some essential management traits and check it through the candidates CV in the interview and if they are not convinced they question one on the same. Apart from this, focus in interview is on integrity.

So not having work ex or 55% in academics is definitely not a bottleneck as long as you can justify them in the interview. Every year there are a lot of candidates with no work ex and average academics who make it to IIMs.

Any way this should not affect your score in the aptitude tests. So please dont take this as an excuse for not preparing for CAT.

I personally meet hazaar such reactions on daily basis and i treat them as excuses.. If you have to do it, then you have do it... whatever is the past, is past n your limitations are there.. then work on how can you improve them, if you cant how can you identify how you can cover them, rather than taking them as excuse and giving half hearted attempts..

Hence my infamous quote : Learn to rise above your excuses..

cheers

vivek


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Subject: 
Dear VivekThanx A Zillion.
Author: 
Guest (not verified)
Date: 
Wed, 13/07/2005 - 17:30

Dear Vivek
Thanx A Zillion. I feel a lot better now. I will just work whole heartedly towards CAT and hope that I can cover up my academic let ups with my CAT scores. It's really nice of you to take the onus on yourself and encourage others. Thanks again


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Subject: 
only 4 months to go but a lot to do
Author: 
hari (not verified)
Date: 
Mon, 11/07/2005 - 04:48

hi vivek,
ur article was motivating.Now let me brief u abt my case.i am an engg. graduate,presently employed in a software company(wud be completing 20 months by march,2006).I have been going to a CAT-coaching institute for past six months.In the mock tests i am taking(AIMCAT)i am getting a reasonable %ile of 95-95 in qaunts ,but my DI and verbal scores are alternatively getting low.(70-80%ile in verbal and 40-60%ile in DI).So total is around 90%ile.Guide me on what to do next....given that i can spend 2-3 hrs perday at max for study.
And do u suggest quitting my job,to make it into IIM's or any top b-school.
Honestly,given my scores in mock CAT's can i still make it into any IIM's.
I know my question is too specific..mostly unrelated to many of the readers,.....sorry readers culd not help it..
anticipating ur reply.


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Subject: 
Substantial Time
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 12/07/2005 - 11:43

Dear Hari,

At this stage there is no point taking mock cats or being bothered by these mock cat results. Half the all india rankers in these papers dont end up with a single calls from iims. These tools are good measure to tell your strengths and weaknesses and help you identify your areas of improvement. So, look at these from that perspective. Dont get excited or demotivated by any low spot on either side.

Dont look at it as 4 months..look at it as 131 days to CAT..

Feeling better already??

There is definitely sufficent time to crack CAT.

But first of all you'll have to understand how desperately do you want to make it to the iims. Your attitude that you can manage 2-3 hours tells me that you see iims only as a distant dream and dont want to go all out to achieve it.

Winners will always look at it as a problem and how to work a solution. I'll suggest you start project planning on a piece of paper.

Start with noting down how many hours you can spend per working day and per weekend in each month from here to CAT ( its expected the no.of hrs per day will increase as u reach closer to CAT)

You already have an idea about ur strengths and weakness. I personally dont suggest students to start appearing for sectional test till september end..Rather you should focus on your fundamentals..Work a lot your basic arithmetic.. you can use basic books like RS Agrawal along with your core material. This is definitely recommended as solving a variety of basic level questions not only helps you understand the underlying logic behind each arithmetic and alzebra explaination, but also increase your speed. No need to bother about DI at this juncture. First get your foundations on Ratio, Percentage and Numbers right.

Verbal i definitely see as a greater concern..You need to focus right now your reading skills, vocabulary and sentence structure..No point bothering yourself with CAT type questions at this stage..Next two months i rather suggest you do focused reading on a daily basis and give a concentrated effort on vocabulary and getting your sentence structure in place..Because in CAT, all the questions in CAT are dependent on verbal logic and core reading and language skills. so even if you solve 1000 papers you will be as distant as you were before the start of the preparation, if you dont have your fundamental logic and core skills in place..

And just remember .. there are always two approaches to a challenge,

either you wait for a miracle to happen or you endeavor towards it and make it happen.

Cheers

Vivek


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Subject: 
to know about your classes
Author: 
Sunita Gajbhiye (not verified)
Date: 
Fri, 08/07/2005 - 11:46

Hi! Vivek. I am sunita from aurangabad ,state maharashtra.I am in second year of B-pharm and i desperately want to join the mba programme in ahamadabad.So please reply to me to my e-mail address.Tell me about your classes and your correspondense courses etc. sunita.


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Subject: 
Public Forum
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 12/07/2005 - 10:24

Hi sunita,
Its always good to start preparing in time..But this is a public forum so i personally wont like to market my product over here..I would have still send you the course details but i dont have your e-mail id.

I suggest you and all the aspirants with such queries to mail me @ my e-mail id rather than hurting the sanctity of this site in any way...

looking forward to hear from you,

cheers
vivek


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Subject: 
Know the destination,which route??
Author: 
Diti (not verified)
Date: 
Mon, 27/06/2005 - 05:10

Hi Vivek...dat was really motivatin.I tried mailin you..bt cudnt gt thru.So..i ask u here itself..
**I have jus finished with my 12th.(science)n nw i seem confused.Accrding to my 'Dream Plan",I wanted to pursue media studies n then top it with an M>B.A,so that I cud work...in an organisation like Lintas.But as I know...50% at IIM r engineers(n wat abt d other 50%?).Plus...considerin such a back-ground...how 'real' is it to aspire to get in2 top B-Schools??
**An wat do u think about dis combi.?-Lawyer=M.B.A.?Does d corporate world need such a combi?
**I want a career which is intellectually stimulatin+creative.And I WNT to gt in2 d bst B-Schools.N I DONT wnt to do Engineerin.N to wat extent does it matter frm which college we graduated??Am I d odd 1 out.It wud be nice if u posted such cases for us to study.Bt b4 dat ..please guide me....I Have to make a decision..NOW!!Thanks:)


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Subject: 
chill
Author: 
vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 28/06/2005 - 20:56

Chill.. there is no harm in targeting for top B schools, there are people in all the top b schools with varied backgrounds. You'll find architects, doctors, CAs, commerce graduates, literature students. So dont let not being an engineer an excuse to prepare for CAT. The percentage is skewed towards engineers, essentially because of two reasons, yes, the engineers have right kind of logic orientation to start preparing for CAT, plus they are the most focused lot taking CAT. Compare an engineering student with a com student.. Commerce student is not able to get out of dilema of CFA vs CA vs icwa vs CS vs diploma courses vs IT courses vs call centre jobs.. whereas engineers clearly face 4 main options: job (IT /of their stream), GRE, GATE , MBA. They prioritize and move ahead..
Yes media studies and MBA is good option.. but hey..where does law comes into picture..


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Subject: 
hi vivek
Author: 
nitin (not verified)
Date: 
Fri, 24/06/2005 - 10:05

hi vivek , nice to read a eye opener for cat.. i have just started preparing for cat.. plz guide me how should i study.. is basics the only thing the ask for??? how should i go about preparing??? nitin


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Subject: 
focussed approach
Author: 
vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Tue, 28/06/2005 - 20:46

its very difficult to guide you straight away without knowing your background and your orientation to both mathematical and verbal logic. Considering that you are taking CAT-05 and you are starting right now, your focus areas should be reading(read a lot and varied topic), vocabulary and quant fundamentals. Then only you should move to logic areas like reasoning and DI.
I have no where mentioned that it is basic maths..it is based on your core SSC grade fundamentals but it is totaly applied.. i will suggest you mail me your detailed background at vivek@endeavorcareers.com and then i will be in a better position to guide you.


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Subject: 
Bout d article
Author: 
Nitesh (not verified)
Date: 
Wed, 15/06/2005 - 11:45

I m an absolute beginer 4 CAT n aiming 4 IIMS...this article was truly very motivating n i m lookin 4ward 2 mor of such articles.
As i told u i m a beginer i wud like u 2 provide some tips 2 me bout d initial preparation...i m soin my engg from ISM n goin 2 3rd year.


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Subject: 
Hi Nitesh,Every body is a
Author: 
vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Sat, 18/06/2005 - 09:23

Hi Nitesh,
Every body is a beginner at one point of time. Most successful MBAs/Businessmen or celebrity would have faced a similar problem like yours. But its only the ones who get started and endeavour their dream and really able to succeed.
So first of all you should get started. Choke out a plan when do you intend to take cat. Then take a mock paper and understand the bottlenecks that can stop you from making it to iims..
then make a systematic plan how you need to prepare to overcome these potential bottlenecks..
All the best
Cheers
Vivek
( you can contactme at vivek@endeavorcareers.com )


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Subject: 
Thanks
Author: 
Guest (not verified)
Date: 
Wed, 01/06/2005 - 06:13

That was a nice article.

Siddharth


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Subject: 
need clarification
Author: 
sailoraditya (not verified)
Date: 
Wed, 13/07/2005 - 11:33

dear vivek,
great theory along with a story.really motivating.m aditya a marine engineer(unfortunately thru IITJEE).i hav passed out in 2004 and sit for cat 2004 scored 83.57%ile but had a call fm fms and nmims, cudn convert it as i was unable to answer why shifting frm mari engineering to an mba(perhaps).i will be giving cat this year too however hav no intention to join shipping industry(personal exp not gud).however this huge time gap since sep2004 cant be justified without gap.will u plz help me out with it?also plz tell me is there any harm in join an agrofoodbased industry as a maintainence engineer (similar work profile ) if i join merchant navy as an engnr?plz tell me what is the format ofa workex certificate that i hav to submit at time of gdand pi.
regards aditya


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Subject: 
Not an issue
Author: 
Vivek (not verified)
Date: 
Thu, 14/07/2005 - 16:34

Dear Aditya,

Dont give a story, and explain the situation honestly and be candid in the interview and you will make it.. There are people who fake work ex but have not seen them makin it to the big league.. Ya some people fake profile and are able to justify it.. but the interviewers are sitting with years of experience and they dont make such mistakes easily.
If a guy is able to pull it because the interviewers chose to ignore them,
Dont worry about your CAT percentile last year..your performance at the rest of the exams give me a confidence that prepared well you should be able to clear the written.. Interview is a different game in which you should commit only that much in writing which you can pull off.. I generally suggest people to be candid.. couple of months on either side is kind of exceptable.. but not beyond..and it hurts your integrity in long run..
Both the jobs are decent, but you should look forward to excel in them and add some value to CV, and if you can do that then you can easily cover up the gap and its not as big a issue as people make..

Cheers

Vivek


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